Correspondence with the PMRA on the 'Household Soap Issue' 30 Aug to Dec 8, 2004
'PMRA OFFICIAL' has been substituted for the proper name(s) of the individual(s) with whom I corresponded.
-David Patriquin
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Mon, 30 Aug 2004 09:42:06 -0300 (ADT)
From: David G Patriquin
To: PMRA OFFICIAL
Subject: Re: Clarification to PMRA's statement regarding Control of Chinch Bugs
To: PMRA OFFICIAL
, PMRA
From: David Patriquin
I have now changed my reference to use of household soap on the versicolor website to reflect your recent clarification.
I do have a further question. I am familiar with cases in which older people simply want the work done by a lawncare co., and have to go with whatever the company is able to offer, even when they prefer not to use pesticides. Many such persons, I think, would have their company use household soap as an alternative.
Could a lawncare client request a lawncare company to apply household soap to a patch of grass affected by chinch bug, (or other pest), and can the lawncare company then provide that service (versus actively soliciting this type of business)? Would the client have to supply the soap and specify how it is used?
I am grateful for your consideration of this question.
David Patriquin
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 13:07:30 -0400
From: PMRA OFFICIAL
To: David G Patriquin
Cc: /////////////////////////////////////////////
Subject: Soap and lawncare companies
Hello Dr Patriquin,
I have an answer for you regarding your last inquiry.
The Agency can not make a recommendation regarding a request from a
consumer to a lawncare company. Professional lawncare companies have
policies and regulations to follow as well as insurance considerations. We
recommend speaking with your provincial representatives and/or lawncare
companies that service your region to further examine the issue.
I think this can be compared to the Cleaning Service industry where some
companies strictly use their appliances and cleaning products as per
company policy, etc.
Some suggested wording to address this issue could therefore be:
"...you may want to request some assistance from friends, neighbours or
family members to use the dish soap flannel trap method...."
I hope this response is satisfactory and invite you to continue
corresponding with me if you have any further questions.
Regards,
PMRA OFFICIAL
PMRA OFFICIAL
Media Relations/Communications
Communications/Relations des médias
Pest Management Regulatory Agency
Agence de réglementation de la lutte antiparasitaire
Health Canada/Santé Canada
Tel: 613-736-3922
Fax: 613-736-3699
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Fri, 10 Sep 2004 11:22:29 -0700
From: David G Patriquin
To: PMRA OFFICIAL
Cc: /////////
Bcc: ////////////
Subject: Re: Soap and lawncare companies
Part(s):
2 PMRAsep10.rtf application/rtf 23.69 KB [View Attached Document]
Hello PMRA OFFICIAL
,
Your response of yesterday clarified the situation regarding individuals asking
lawncare companies to use soap, however the reference to the dish soap flannel
trap method lead me to wonder whether I have misunderstood your communication
of Aug. 27. I am grateful for your consideration of the questions in the
attached document.
I am copying this communication to the various people who have been copied
previously.
I very much appreciate the time you are taking to deal with these questions.
Regards,
David Patriquin
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Thu, 16 Sep 2004 08:02:30 -0400
From: PMRA OFFICIAL
To: David G Patriquin
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Soap and lawncare companies
Dr. Patriquin,
I did not receive last Friday's e-mail. I may not have time to respond
immediately.
Your patience is appreciated in this manner.
Regards,
PMRA OFFICIAL
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(E-mail of 10 Sep. resent 15 Sep)
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 06:18:18 -0300
From: David G Patriquin
To: PMRA OFFICIAL
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Soap and lawncare companies
Thank you. I would be grateful if you could let me know when you think you would
get a reply back - not to put you on the spot, but there are some meetings
coming up in which related issues will be discussed, and it would be helpful to
have this matter clarified, or at least to know when the clarification will be
forthcoming.
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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 11:35:21 -0400
From: PMRA OFFICIAL
To: David G Patriquin
Subject: Re: Re Soap
Dr. Patriquin,
We are currently preparing a response. We hope to get back to you in the
next few weeks.
PMRA OFFICIAL
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Thu, 18 Nov 2004 20:40:28 -0400
From: David G Patriquin
To: PMRA OFFICIAL@hc-sc.gc.ca>, pmra_infoserv@hc-sc.gc.ca
Cc: patriqui@Dal.Ca
Subject: Please respond
Nov. 18, 2004
To
PMRA OFFICIAL
Media Relations/Communications
Communications/Relations des médias
Pest Management Regulatory Agency
Health Canada/Santé Canada
Cc: pmra_infoserv@hc-sc.gc.ca
Infoserv; please deal with this business if PMRA OFFICIAL
is not available to do so. Thank you
Dear PMRA OFFICIAL
,
I would very grateful if you could acknowledge my recent messages, and let me
know when I can expect to receive the more detailed response to my query of
Sept 10 (reforwarded Sep 17). (On October 6, you told me that "We are currently
preparing a response. We hope to get back to you in the next few weeks.")
Thanks for your consideration of this matter.
David Patriquin
Professor of Biology
Dalhousie University
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:14:00 -0500
From: PMRA OFFICIAL
To: David G Patriquin
Subject: Re: Re Soap
I hope to deliver a reply by end of week.
PMRA OFFICIAL
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 11:38:27 -0500
From: PMRA OFFICIAL
To: David G Patriquin
Subject: PMRA response - control of chinch bugs
Dr. Patriquin,
We thank you for identifying the source of confusion in our Effective
Control of Chinch Bugs Pest Note. We are currently making the necessary
changes to clarify the issue.
We also invite you to consult the information posted on our website to
verify accuracy of information you have posted on the versicolor.ca site
regarding chinch bugs. We will gladly forward any document in the event you
cannot access some links on our site. (www.pmra-arla.gc.ca)
We believe we have been clear regarding what lawn care companies can and
cannot do for control of chinch bugs. Lawn care companies cannot sell a
service using an unregistered pest control product.
Following consultation of your website, I understand you wish access to
insecticidal soaps and diatomaceous earth pest control products for control
of chinch bugs. As you are well aware, their use is not currently
registered for chinch bugs. In order to get these two products registered
to control chinch bugs, you may approach the product manufacturers and
request that they pursue a submission to PMRA to add chinch bug control to
their labels.
I hope this response is satisfactory.
Regards,
PMRA OFFICIAL